FG should swap detained B’Haram members with kidnapped schoolgirls –Ozekhome
FG should swap detained B’Haram members with kidnapped schoolgirls –Ozekhome
June 7, 2014
Mike Ozekhome
Chief
Mike Ozekhome, a Senior Advocate of Nigeria, who is a member of the
National Conference Committee on Law, Judiciary, Human Rights and Legal
Reforms, speaks with FRIDAY OLOKOR on the Boko Haram insurgency in the country among other issues
Boko Haram insurgents have
continued to put Nigeria on the edge, giving the government great
concern. What options are there for government to end or check these
terrorists?
We are talking about life that is
sacrosanct and irreplaceable. We are talking about our young and
innocent girls, over 200 of them, who are being traumatised on a daily
basis and going through horrific circumstances. I believe that this is
the time the government should dialogue with Boko Haram, after all the
government itself in the last two years has invited Boko Haram to
dialogue with it. It was the Boko Haram group that said it was not ready
for dialogue. Now that members of the group have said they are
interested in dialogue, I advise the government to seize the opportunity
to dialogue with them, not just on the release of the over 200 female
students of Government Secondary School in Chibok, Borno State but
holistically on all the issues involved so as to stop the bloodletting
in the country.
Do you believe the extension of state of emergency in the three Northern states of Borno, Yobe and Adamawa was a good option?
Many people are being killed in this
country, but I do not agree with those people who felt that the state of
emergency should not have been extended. Nigerians at times suffer
selective amnesia like the Bonbons of European history that learnt
nothing and forgot nothing to the extent that they still had to fight
World War II even after the treaties of Wessex in 1919. How many people
remember that only up to February and March last year, before the first
proclamation of a state of emergency in May last year, this Boko Haram
insurgents had actually invaded and taken over some local government
areas in Borno and Adamawa states and actually removed the Nigerian flag
and planted their own flags and were exercising sovereignty over those
parts of the country? It was the declaration of a state of emergency
that made President Goodluck Jonathan to send military there; this was
later created into a whole division. Many people have forgotten that it
was because of the harassment of the Boko Haram members that they
themselves have taken into the Sambisa forest because they could no
longer live in the villages. They now come to the villages, attack and
abduct villagers, and run away. So you cannot say because you are going
to Lagos and your car breaks down and the need to continue the journey
at all cost will make you carry the car on your head. What you have to
do is to find a way to repair the car and get it moving again.
Democracy, we must learn, is not a Usane Bolt’s 100-meters-quick-race
that you get the result with immediate effect or by fiat as we were used
to having during the military regimes. Democracy is a marathon that
requires a lot of patience, sacrifice, a lot of give and take, horse
trading and a lot of pampering. Both centrifugal and centripetal forces
are what make democracy strong.
Is it possible to dialogue with a faceless group?
These people have links, they are not
spirits. Boko Haram members are not ghosts; why are they saying they
should release their family members if they are not people that can be
seen? The truth is that they have roots and homestead and many of their
family members have been captured. For me, those family members who were
captured not on the field of battle, not in the war-front but arrested
from their various houses for having links with these Boko Haram
members, should be released and traded off for the abducted Chibok
girls. They are different from those people that were caught operating
and have been tried.
You advocated that
environmental rights should be made justiceable at the resumption of
plenary in the ongoing National Conference; why?
Environmental rights are very important;
man by nature is an animal, we live in our environment and if our
environment is degrading, then we cannot claim to be better than the
lower classes of animals. If you want to punish your pet you lock it up
in a cage and living in a bad environment is more or less like living in
the Hobbesian state of nature where life is short, nasty and brutish.
All over the world, rights have gone beyond fundamental rights to what
we call ECOSOC rights: Economic and Socio-Cultural Rights. Fundamental
rights are no longer the issue because they are taken for granted; they
are rights that are inalienable. My freedom of speech is merely put in
the constitution and I have freedom of speech because I already have a
tongue given to me by God to speak. My freedom of movement is only put
in the constitution as a mere dress rehearsal because by giving me my
legs to walk, God has already given me freedom of movement and
association. My rights to liberty or rights to life are not rights given
to me by the constitution because by my mother giving birth to me, God
has already given me right to life and I was born free. I was not born
in a cage, so we have gone beyond those rights. The issues now are
economic rights, shelter rights and environmental rights. Look at
environmental rights for example in Nigeria and use the Niger-Delta as a
case study, these are people who have water everywhere but like in the
Ancient Mariner, none is fit enough to drink. These people defecate in
the same polluted stagnant streams that they also drink from. These
people have light 24-hours a day not from the national grid but from
constant gas flaring that leads to acid rain and causes cancer. This
also leads to the impoverishment of the soil meant for agriculture and
the killing of the fish in the waters. People’s means of livelihood are
being taken away.
Nigeria is one of the highest gas
flaring nations in the world, flaring 76 per cent of our natural gas
reserves. So of less than 3 trillion cubic fit of natural gas reserves, a
significant volume is flared a daily basis and the multinational
companies are not on being held accountable. We are not taking them to
courts of law; we are not punishing them for degrading our environment.
Netherlands also has oil but its gas flaring is zero per cent, America
flares 5.4 per cent, while Nigeria flares 76 per cent. If you continue
to flare gas and bring diseases and avoidable illnesses to the people,
then you cannot say you have protected your environment. I come from a
small village called Ivbiokwe near Agenebode in Wepa-Wenno Kingdom in
Etsako East Local Government Area of Edo State. I am, therefore, a
minority within a minority. To go home from Auchi, erosion is cutting
off the road and by the time you manage to get to Fugar through Oben to
Ohame, the road has been divided into two and then from Ohame to my
village, Ivbiokwe, and from there to Agenebode you see gully erosions.
Are you now saying that I have no right to go to court and sue the state
government or the Federal Government for not protecting my environment
or my habitat? That is wrong, that is why I agreed with the Committee on
Environment when it recommended that Section 20 of the constitution,
which deals with protection of our environment, our wide-life and our
natural habitat, should be taken from the non- justiceable section,
which deals with Fundamental Objectives and Directive Principles of
State Policy to Chapter 4, which deals with fundamental human rights. In
other words, these rights should be made fundamental and I also
recommended that Section 6(c) of the constitution, which makes Chapter 2
dealing with these fundamental objectives, including the environmental
rights non-justiceable should also be deleted from the constitution.
Why did you also advocate that the Land Use Act should be made an ordinary Act of Parliament?
That is another aspect that is dear to
me. The Land Use Act has to be taken away from Section 315 of the
constitution because you cannot amend the Land Use Act as it is now. The
reason is that you can only amend the Land Use Act in the same way you
will amend the constitution under Section 9. This means that you need
the 2/3 majority vote of the members of the National Assembly. You will
also need the 2/3 majority votes of all the 36 State Houses of Assembly
in Nigeria, which is a gigantic task that you can hardly ever come to.
So, in this modern time when the world is moving on, how can you leave a
Land Use Act so sacrosanct and so sacred as not to be touchable? The
issue now is for state governors to grab lands belonging to communities
allegedly for a public purpose. What is a public purpose has not been
defined. A public purpose, I can tell you, is when you are talking about
building hospitals that are accessible to the whole world, building of
roads, building of a mosque, church and market all of which are
accessible to the people. But some state governors now forcefully
acquire the land of the peasants, pay little or no compensation and sell
these lands to multinational organisations and businessmen all in the
name of acquiring the land for a public purpose. Whereas all those big
organisations will come up with shopping malls; and these are individual
purposes for which they are making money. I therefore agree with the
Committee on Environment that the Land Use Act should be taken away from
the precincts of Section 315 of the constitution and made an ordinary
Act of the National Assembly that you can amend going by the dynamics of
the society. It is a contradiction to say for me to use the land that
belongs to my ancestors and family I have to apply to my state governor
to give me a Certificate of Occupancy to be able to use my father’s or
ancestor’s land. It is actually an expropriation of my family and
ancestral lands by the government. Such should not be allowed in our
laws. The land tenure system in Jigawa State or Kano, Borno and Bauchi
states, for example, is quite different from the land tenure system in
Edo State. Why don’t you therefore leave land as a state matter to be
dealt with by state Houses of Assembly according to the nuances of the
people of that place? I therefore support fully that the Land Use Act
should be removed from the constitution and made an ordinary Act of
parliament.
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